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Dear English grammar expert:
Does the following sentence mean A or B?
1 I have seen them defeated.
a-I have seen them be defeated.
b-I have seen them after their being defeated. I have seen them in a defeated state.
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2-I have seen them defeated by the Lakers.
Does it mean A or B?
a-I have seen them be defeated by the Lakers.
b-I have seen them after the Lakers have defeated them. I know what they look like after they have been beaten by the Lakers.
Thanks